Comments on: No Victim No Crime

By: astralwicks

astralwicks — Mon, 17 Mar 2008 04:52:33 +0000

i agree winslie. any excuse so that you case save your own people, your own brother, countryman or woman, no matter how guilty. economic well being = social well being = mental well being = psychological…

By: chaubey

chaubey — Sun, 16 Mar 2008 14:36:41 +0000

this is rape and murder.. the guilty have to be caught and punished.. for the sake of our sanity.. all discussion about the victim and her family, her life is totally irrelevant..

By: Winslie Gomez

Winslie Gomez — Fri, 14 Mar 2008 13:48:41 +0000

Astralwicks
If I may take up point 1 by Myexpression.

Blaming the woman/girl is common practise in many cultures and not necessarily unique to India. Even in our own liberated UK there is still the concept, perhaps unspoken, that “she was asking for it”, with no clear definition of what “it” might be.
However the battle for a woman’s voice (in the sexual realm) to be heard, is a particular struggle that needs to be elevated trough public discourse.
The empowerment of women’s rights are closely linked to their increased ability to be real wage earners.

Just my thoughts.

By: astralwicks

astralwicks — Fri, 14 Mar 2008 09:35:20 +0000

i agree @my expression

By: myexpression

myexpression — Fri, 14 Mar 2008 09:08:12 +0000

1. some years back in jaipur an indian girl was raped at the boys hostel in the university campus and everyone screamed that she was mad to have gone into the boys hostel obviously what else will happen to her but they lost one point that she was not going in a jungle infested of tigers that she will get eaten up. she went into boys hostel, place where she knew many; boys who studied with her. later the girl was painted to be of lose morals as she used to drink and had a relationship. the case went on for a long long time and later it was given to women’s commission. i clearly do not remember what happened but i guess the accused were set free.

2. yesterday in mumbai mirror there was a debate going on on scarlette’s rape and death and one woman said that the case is just blown out of proportions, as if 15 year olds do not get raped in UK. i’m sure it happens any where but that has nothing to do with Fiona wanting justice. i woner what that woman will do if her daughter gets raped in UK? will she pasify herself by saying Oh it happens in india also so i should just forget about it. perhaps not.

3. all the reasons like alcohol, drugs and bad parenting that is being given by the indian side should look at themselves and perhaps the society needs to look at itself. a friend of mine, European got molested in a temple by some priests. later another person whom we all knew for months and years molested her and my friend is not a druggy, she does not wear revealing clothes, she is not arrogant, she is more religious than any average hindu. so why this should this happen to her.

why are we not looking at the rape and death with sensitivity? why its not forcing us to look inwardly? look at our faults? where we are going wrong? as humanity collectively.

By: astralwicks

astralwicks — Fri, 14 Mar 2008 05:14:12 +0000

It has no doubt. family, drugs, police responsibility, tourist trade etc etc. Scarlette’s mother is facing flak and some would say rightly so. Her hippy dream gone sour. But the moot issue here is not the way Fiona raised her kids. It is this in my view ‘did the cops cover up the murder’? Which they did. Everybody knows about the drugs in Goa. Should the Indian government and Goa state frame special laws for this tiny paradise or whatever remains of it? Crackdown on the mafia? Will the tourists pour in them if the parties stop? Will the state suffer? It is complicated.

By: Winslie Gomez

Winslie Gomez — Thu, 13 Mar 2008 17:56:01 +0000

Hi
This issue has deeper implications.

I am writing from the Uk and if you have no objection here is my link
http://justlearningman.wordpress.com/2008/03/13/pragmatic-parent-pompous-pratt-or-prophetic-purifier/